Interview with sci-fi author Clayton Barnett

another new week and I’m kicking this one off by chatting with Clayton Barnett, the
author of the science fiction novel The
Fourth Law.

Clayton does his virtual book tour, he’ll be giving away a $30 Amazon or Barnes
and Noble (winner’s choice) gift card to a lucky randomly drawn winner. To be
entered for a chance to win, use the
form below.
To increase your chances of winning, feel free to visit his
other tour stops and enter there, too!


design engineer; some-time pharmacy technician. Full-time father and husband. Born
in Houston but raised in the Mountain West. Currently misplaced in central Ohio
with his wife and two daughters. Took up writing on whim to make an 80k+ word
visual novel. Decided to give traditional novels as try, too.

Welcome, Clayton. Please tell us about
your current release.

The Fourth Law is set about a dozen
years from now, in central Texas. It presumes a collapse of the US currency and
Federal government some six years before the story opens. Things are just
beginning to return to “normal,” and only in some locations.
Barrett is 23-years old. A nurse apprentice at a local hospital and a live-in
aide at a Catholic orphanage in Waxahachie, Texas. Her family is sundered and
she is largely alone. Six months ago, online, she met a curious young woman
about her own age, who calls herself Ai. They cautiously become friends.
book commences with first Ai, and later Lily, opening themselves and their
families to one another as they learn to trust and love as friends. Ai
eventually goes so far as to come to visit Lily, only to have the attention she
attracts to her friend redound with deadly consequences.

What inspired you to write this book?

Novel Writing Month or, A friend mentioned it to me in passing
three day in on November 3rd. Dangling that kind of irrational deadline
in front of me was irresistible! A few ideas in my unconscious mind came
together, and I sat down and started typing out what I saw.

Excerpt from The Fourth Law:
Lily stood with her father in the Nara
Airport, in the queue to get a taxi. Her short hair was pulled back in a little
ponytail, and given the heat and humidity, she was profoundly glad to be
wearing a tee shirt and shorts. Looking at her dad, she saw he was already
sweating in his short-sleeved shirt and slacks.

“Daijoubu desu ka?” She asked him. He grinned
at her.

“Daijoubu! You’ve certainly outpaced your
mother and I at picking up Japanese!” He said, the pride in his
voice obvious.

She grinned back. “After you made it clear
that you really were going to send me here for three months, I’d no choice!”

“And in that case,” as they both took a step
forward in line, “get us a cab to the Kodokan Dojo, so we can get you settled

“Hai…!” She nonchalantly replied.

As the island scenery flew by the car’s
window, Lily found herself both excited and nervous. Three months away from
home, in a foreign country, and training under some of the best masters of her
school… sure, she had earned her black belt, but as her Master in Ohio told
her, “That simply means ‘this monkey is trainable.’”

The dojo, it seemed, was located in an older
but still nice neighborhood. While her father paid the driver, she pulled her
single piece of luggage behind her as she walked to the main entrance. A young
man, maybe in his mid-twenties, greeted her as she came in.

I help you?” He asked.

I…er… I’m Lily Barrett, from America.  I’ll be staying and training here
for the summer!” She thought she
got that out correctly. It would seem so, as he started flipping through some
forms. Her father came up beside her.

“How’s things?” He asked.

“I think they’re okay….” She hesitantly replied.

The man grunted at the papers in front of him.
Here you are.  I can show you to what will be your room.  The manager
is leading a class right now, but you can meet him in about thirty
minutes.  Is that alright?”

“Sure! Oops! Sorry,
sure, that’s fine!” She heard her father chuckle at her little mistake. At this, the
young man turned to him.

are her father?  Please be assured that we shall take the best care of
your daughter.”

Getting about one word in three, Clive Barrett
just nodded politely. The fellow turned back to Lily.

name is Isi, also a boarder here.  It is my turn today to watch the door;
we all help out around the dojo.  Do you understand?”

much, Isi-san.  I look forwards to working with you!” Or, was I supposed to say, ‘I’m in your care?’ Whatever.

Isi led them down a series of hallways that
seem to surround the central training area. He showed them to a small, but
clean room, and indicated that the toilets were at the end of the hall. Bowing,
he left them alone.

“There’s no bed.” Her father said.

Lily gave an exasperated sigh. “Really, Daddy?
I bet there’s a futon folded up in this cabinet… yep! I’ve about twenty
minutes until my meeting, so I’ll unpack a bit.”

While she did this, her father stared out the
window. Without looking at her, he spoke.

“Lily. Is this really okay, leaving you here? I
mean, the other side of the planet, a mixed dorm…”

She smiled at that. So that’s what he’s
worried about! What a dad! She took a few steps and gave his back a hug.

“I’ll be fine, Daddy! Go back to Tokyo and
find Mom before she spends all our money, and I’ll be home in late August. Don’t
worry about me! This is Okinawa; the crime rate is almost zero, your little
girl’s a black belt, and,” she returned to her luggage, pulled out her Ka-Bar
Marine knife that he’d got her for Christmas some years back, and placed it
onto the desk, “you know what a careful person I am!”

With a smile, he returned her hug. “Yeah,
you’re right. Let’s go see the manager then I’ll get out of your hair!”
Lily stared off the hospital roof into the
horizon of central Texas. She closed her eyes.

“I think that was the last time I saw my
father smile. Just a week later the Breakup began in the ‘States… and things
got… bad. For all of us.” Not hearing anything, she looked at her phone. Ai’s
image seemed downcast, staring towards the bottom of the screen, gently rocking
forwards and back.

“Thank you for my present, Lily.” Ai stopped,
then started again. “I like you, and want to know more about you—”

“Then why won’t you show me—!” Lily started to
yell, then quickly stopped. No, I won’t have this argument again! “I… I’m
sorry, Ai, I’ve got to get back to work…”

But as she moved to end the call, Ai suddenly
looked at her, her rendered eyes piercing.

“Just now, in your present to me, you
mentioned your father’s name. And you live in Texas. Are you really the

“SHUT UP! I HATE YOU!!” Lily’s scream was
enough to startle the others on the rooftop. Barely resisting the urge to throw
her phone to the parking lot far below, she turned it completely off as she
staggered back into the building.

What exciting story are you working on

Civilization! That’s what I’ve taken to calling this series. The first sequel,
which opens seconds after the closing of The
Fourth Law
, is “Echoes
of Family Lost,”
already published (and I look forwards to our next book
tour!). I’ve written and contracted an illustrator for book #3, “Henge’s Big
Day!”, a children’s book I’ll have out when the art is complete. I’ve notes for
book #4… an espionage/thriller about Lily’s father’s chief assistant and the
role she plays in the domestic secret police force of ExComm, five years before
the events of “The Fourth Law” take place.

When did you first
consider yourself a writer?
About three years ago, this little exchange
“That will be $10,
please.” He handed me the money, and I gave him a copy of OTChi Kocchi. Dear God! I thought. Someone
just gave me money for a story I wrote!
say it was somewhere around there.

Do you write full-time? If so, what’s
your work day like? If not, what do you do other than write and how do you find
time to write?

When I was giving a series
of presentations
to the kids at my girls’ primary school about creative
writing and self-publishing, this question came up almost every time! As I told
them, unless you’ve a trust-fund or one of your books has been made into a
movie, you will have some kind of day job. Even luminaries such as Tolkien and
Lewis had their jobs at university; until “Hunt for Red October” was filmed and
released, Clancy was selling auto and home policies. My day job is actually a
night job: I’m a third shift pharmacy technician at a local hospital. Once upon
a time, BC (before children), I was a design engineer.
is no way to ‘find’ time to write. Neither I, nor anyone, else ever will. I
make time to write; and, more importantly, I make that time because I have SET
AN IRRATIONAL DEADLINE as to when a work must get done. It’s something I
stressed to those kids I spoke to: without a deadline – a harsh one – you will
never get anything completed. For my visual novel, we were presenting it at a
panel at an animecon in three months, for The
Fourth Law
, it was the challenge of NaNoWriMo.
For “Echoes
of Family Lost,”
in February I decided it had to be complete by Easter. Without
these deadlines, I would have finished and published exactly NOTHING, which,
horribly, is about what 80% of people with great stories end up doing.

What would you say is
your interesting writing quirk?
do not consider myself a writer. I’m just transcribing these scenes that come
into my head. That makes me more of an editor, I suppose. If that’s a little
odd to read, consider that I found it odd to type; nonetheless, it’s true. Never
once have I “forced” some kind of scene out. I might go hours or even a day or
two with nothing, but I wait.
are not my stories… they’re theirs.

As a child, what did you want to be when
you grew up?

very young, an astronaut. My parents were taken aback when, as a 2.5 year old
toddler, I wandered into the living room in the summer of 1969 and told them to
wake me up in the morning so I could watch the Moon landing. Later, I wanted to
be an engineer; I liked designing and making things. Still later, a Cold
Warrior. That last didn’t work out after 1991, so back to engineer. Ten years
later, I became a parent, and everything is subordinate to that. As you can
see, I’m still growing up.

Anything additional you want to share
with the readers?

deadline!!! I wrote the 54k words of The
Fourth Law
in twenty three days. It sucked, but I saw potential in it. I
decided to publish it. By Christmas, 26 days away. I had to learn editing,
line-editing, formatting, self-publishing (on three different platforms) all
while working my job, being a father, being a husband. Alone in my house around
2215 on Christmas Eve, I hit the ‘enter’ key and published my first traditional
novel. If a middle-age drunk such as I can do it, I know you can, too. Get to

Thanks, Clayton!

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10 thoughts on “Interview with sci-fi author Clayton Barnett

  1. Unknown says:

    Firstly, thank to Lisa for hosting me today! (bit of a late start this morning!)

    To answer your question, Mai T, why not drop by the CBY Book Club ( for my tour stop tomorrow and read the answer for Question #2!

  2. Unknown says:

    Thanks, EM & MJ! That excerpt is what Ai wanted as a return "present" from Lily, after she'd got Lily a new keyboard. It's very early in the novel and they are still very curious about us. (Well, some of them are; I don't think Thaad could care less….) Anyway, as you can read, things get a little out of control at the end.

  3. Unknown says:

    I thoroughly enjoyed the interview and excerpt! Do you speak Japanese or do you research the phrases for the books? I am impressed because I have read other books with Japanese dialog and they are often misspelled or something that irks me a little but yours are perfect! Thank you!

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